tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36647723.post8209446415346819810..comments2023-09-09T00:30:46.617-07:00Comments on Hearos (Insights) on Daf Yomi: Baba Metzia 59b - Two Days Rosh ChodeshAvi Lebowitzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10757679478618591719noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36647723.post-57248133801709175312009-06-26T07:43:33.750-07:002009-06-26T07:43:33.750-07:00the Aruch Hashulchan doesnt say that they always h...the Aruch Hashulchan doesnt say that they always had two days; he brings a proof that there was once and therefore obviously such a concept<br /><br />He also makes no mention as to what the halachos of those two days were in those timesAvromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36647723.post-26986136794862095902009-06-26T06:14:52.498-07:002009-06-26T06:14:52.498-07:00the boys in Mosdos Ohr Hatorah in Cleveland are wo...the boys in Mosdos Ohr Hatorah in Cleveland are working hard on this question over shabbosAvromihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13593992238707872967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36647723.post-13060027134510243362009-06-24T07:57:35.322-07:002009-06-24T07:57:35.322-07:00R' Moshe in Dibros (heara 74) points out that ...R' Moshe in Dibros (heara 74) points out that the gemara in nedarim 60 strongly indicates that on a malei month their are 2 days of rosh chodesh. Based on this he says that the 2 days of rosh chodesh must date back as early as the tanaim (since it was explaining a mishna there in nedarim). He suggests that the story with R' eliezer must have occurred prior to this takana.<br />He also proves that m'ikar hadin one DOES say hallel on erev rosh chodesh. His assumption is that they were mekasesh the chodesh "al pi r'iya" so that day 30 could have potentially been rosh chodesh. Therefore r' eliezer would not have said tachnun until late in the day i.e. mincha time, when it was not likely that eidim will come to establish that day as rosh chodesh. If he followed our minhag he should not have said tachnun at that point anyway since it is mincha of erev rosh chodesh. From here we see that skipping tachnun on erev rosh chodesh must have been a later minhag.Avi Lebowitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10757679478618591719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36647723.post-90904054540203403842009-06-23T11:12:22.244-07:002009-06-23T11:12:22.244-07:00Just found that the Maharam Shif asks this questio...Just found that the Maharam Shif asks this question. To answer for rashi he simply says that at that time they must not have been keeping 2 days of rosh chodesh (which is clearly against the aruch hashulchan). However, he points out that the gemara can be understood differently than rashi. Perhaps she assumed it was a "ma'lei" month and therefore 2 days rosh chodesh, when in fact it was a "cha'ser" month and therefore there was only one day rosh chodesh, so she wasn't paying attention to him on the second day.Avi Lebowitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10757679478618591719noreply@blogger.com