The Chofetz Chaim (10:5) proves from our gemara that rechilus is assur even if one is repeating to a gadol b'yisroel a degrading comment made by a "nobody". The gemara proves that the shliach beis din was allowed to report back to the beis din the degrading comments made by one being summoned about the beis din (Acc. to the girsa of Rosh that it was Rechilus, not loshon hora). This was a special dispensation given to a shliach beis din, which implies that otherwise it would be assur even in the situation of dasan and avirum degrading moshe Rabbeinu. It would seem clear then that R' Shimon who reported back to his father the comment made by bar kafra, was certainly loshon horah. Rashi defends R' Shimon by saying that it was "l'fi tumo".
Does Rashi mean to justify what R' Shimon did, or is Rashi simply stating that R' Shimon slipped by accidentally saying over rechilus?
2 comments:
I thought Rashi meant that Rabi Shimon didn't think it was negative about Rebbi, but was merely a comment about how difficult the question was. When he was telling over to his father the difficulty of the question, Rebbi got insulted by the expression used to describe its difficulty.
The Chafeitz CHaim there explains from Rashi that he didn't mean anything negative by this (which is I think how I understood it), but there is still an issur of lashon hara (one is supposed to think of the possibility that the person he is telling it over to will take offense).
i always wonder about these type of gemaros, this type of mistake made by rebi shimon seems so simplistic, i would be somewhat dissapointed if a rebbi of mine would make this mistake and still we are talking about a tana here! how is one to understand this?
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