Monday, November 20, 2006

beitza 24b - Rashi???

Rashi says that fruits that a goy plucks off a tree and brings for a jew is muktzah even according to R' Shimon for it is like the raisins case.
here are some of the question that rishonim and achronim deal with in rashi - see pnei yehushua:
  1. Rashi himself in Shabbos says that acc to rav shimon its only muktzah if you have 2 factors: A) not fit to eat and B) you pushed it off with your hands, so here even if you accept that you pushed it away, its still food.
  2. Why does Rashi not explain simply that you may not enjoy the goy's action on shabbos?
  3. Why is it called muktzah if you hold like the yerushalmi that there is no muktzah by a goy's objects?
  4. Why couldn't rashi say like the Magen Avrohom (based on a tosfos in shabbos) that anything which is forbidden to eat becomes muktzah like a stone?

1 comment:

Avi Lebowitz said...

Re: #2,
The Ran explains that rashi doesn't just say that it is assur bec. of the melacha, but rather bec. of muktzah to include a case where the goy did it even for himself. From the fact that he doesn't answer simply, to include even an issur tiltul, implies that the issur due to the melacha would assur tiltul even without muktzah.